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	<title>Comments on: Shared Sacrifice podcast shout-out</title>
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		<title>By: Turn the Clock Forward &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Catch me on Shared Sacrifice, March 13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turn the Clock Forward &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Catch me on Shared Sacrifice, March 13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you had some questions in comments to this post, and hopefully in this long format I&#8217;ll be able to explain my views in more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ockraz</title>
		<link>http://www.turntheclockforward.org/2010/02/shared-sacrifice-podcast-shout-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36131</link>
		<dc:creator>ockraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: Just to clarify- I could never endorse killing people for performing abortions.  I don&#039;t endorse killing people who are found guilty of committing murder even when the killing is conducted by the state (and called &#039;execution&#039;).  Still, even though I don&#039;t hold such views, I believe that there are ethical views which can permit capital punishment, or abortion, or infanticide, or killing abortionists without being contradictory or inconsistent.

Request for clarification- Do you think that &#039;prolife&#039; means something different than &#039;right to life&#039;?  Is that why you said, &quot;Views on the legality of abortion vary&quot;?  What is the difference between &#039;liberal&#039; and &#039;progressive&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: Just to clarify- I could never endorse killing people for performing abortions.  I don&#8217;t endorse killing people who are found guilty of committing murder even when the killing is conducted by the state (and called &#8216;execution&#8217;).  Still, even though I don&#8217;t hold such views, I believe that there are ethical views which can permit capital punishment, or abortion, or infanticide, or killing abortionists without being contradictory or inconsistent.</p>
<p>Request for clarification- Do you think that &#8216;prolife&#8217; means something different than &#8216;right to life&#8217;?  Is that why you said, &#8220;Views on the legality of abortion vary&#8221;?  What is the difference between &#8216;liberal&#8217; and &#8216;progressive&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: ockraz</title>
		<link>http://www.turntheclockforward.org/2010/02/shared-sacrifice-podcast-shout-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36110</link>
		<dc:creator>ockraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - didn&#039;t see the underlining under &quot;February 5 episode&quot;.  (Sorry.  The yellow dotted lines are often extremely hard to see on my computer.)

I read the June 07, 2009 &#039;The Underview&#039; and I just finished listened to the Blog Talk Radio recording.  Were there no callers, or are they cut out to minimize file size or something?

I have to say that the speaker seems like an earnest (and probably very nice fellow), but there are generous portions of nonsense in the monologue he served up.  (Too much to address here.)

I reread the A PRIMER ON PRO-LIFE PROGRESSIVISM and THE FALLACY OF JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE too.  For what it&#039;s worth (p&#039;haps very little) the statement, &quot;Views on the legality of abortion vary among progressive pro-lifers,&quot; strikes me as very problematic unless one assumes that &#039;prolife&#039; means something very different when it is preceded by &#039;progressive&#039; than it does when it&#039;s not.  Also, regarding the latter, I&#039;m concerned about the maintaining a distinction between two different questions:
 
-Can justifiable homocide be accepted as a legal defense for murdering abortionists?

-Would an ethical system which gave a moral justification to the murder of abortionists necessarily be contradictory or inconsistent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; didn&#8217;t see the underlining under &#8220;February 5 episode&#8221;.  (Sorry.  The yellow dotted lines are often extremely hard to see on my computer.)</p>
<p>I read the June 07, 2009 &#8216;The Underview&#8217; and I just finished listened to the Blog Talk Radio recording.  Were there no callers, or are they cut out to minimize file size or something?</p>
<p>I have to say that the speaker seems like an earnest (and probably very nice fellow), but there are generous portions of nonsense in the monologue he served up.  (Too much to address here.)</p>
<p>I reread the A PRIMER ON PRO-LIFE PROGRESSIVISM and THE FALLACY OF JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE too.  For what it&#8217;s worth (p&#8217;haps very little) the statement, &#8220;Views on the legality of abortion vary among progressive pro-lifers,&#8221; strikes me as very problematic unless one assumes that &#8216;prolife&#8217; means something very different when it is preceded by &#8216;progressive&#8217; than it does when it&#8217;s not.  Also, regarding the latter, I&#8217;m concerned about the maintaining a distinction between two different questions:</p>
<p>-Can justifiable homocide be accepted as a legal defense for murdering abortionists?</p>
<p>-Would an ethical system which gave a moral justification to the murder of abortionists necessarily be contradictory or inconsistent?</p>
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		<title>By: ockraz</title>
		<link>http://www.turntheclockforward.org/2010/02/shared-sacrifice-podcast-shout-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36108</link>
		<dc:creator>ockraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.blogtalkradio.com/shared_sacrifice/2010/02/06/shared-sacrifice-nightly
I believe this is the location for the podcast episode (?)</description>
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I believe this is the location for the podcast episode (?)</p>
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